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Primitive Proposal

Bay TB 16.2hh 2000

Primitive Proposal is something special. We feel he is a worthy successor to his famous father Primitive Rising. He possess the same presence, lovely limbs and of course that extravagant movement. He has a delightful temperament and really stamps his stock. He is fully graded with Sport Horse Breeding (GB)

Primitive Proposal has been lightly competed when his stud duties allow. He qualified for the Burghley Young Event championships as a 4 yr old and won Brooksby pre novice as a 5 yr old. He show jumped and started his dressage as a 6yr old and will now fully concentrate on his dressage. He won his novice 1st time out with his rider Craig Millard & qualified for the winter regional’s in Feb 08.

Primitive Proposal’s oldest stock are 9yr olds in 2013 and are proving themselves under saddle. Primitive Prospect ridden by Piggy French was 19th in his 1st International 2* with a double clear. Primitive Data won the Intermediate at Great Witchingham and has done his 1st 2* as well.

Proposal has already made a name for himself as a leading sire of show horses. He won the Best Produce Class at the National Hunter Show in 2006 and 2009 and was Reserve in 2007.So far in 2012 he is the sire of Comberton Calyspo, reserve champ riding horse breeding at Bath and West and Attractive Proposition Reserve champion Riding horse at Midland Counties. In 2009 he was the sire of 12 Individual show champions and his progeny had a very good year in 2010 as well, with Georgetown II Champion Hunter at Bucks County, Harlow Hill Champion Hunter at Northumberland County and Comberton Cachet, won her Riding horse class and was res. champion at Devon County.


Primitive Rising

Bay 1984

Raise a Man Raise a Native
Delta Sal
Periquito Olden Times
Bold Aunt


With Love

Black 1980

Hoarwithy March Past
Ma Marie
Evette Evening Trial


Sire: Primitive Rising

His sire is the illustrious Primitive Rising, who has proved himself time and time again in the event field and National Hunt racing.
National Hunt sire of winners of over 70 races with offspring such as Moor Lane, Paperising, Suprising and Go Informal.
He was also a prolific sire of eventers, winning 8 British Horse Foundation Awards and siring the winner of the BYEH on 5 occasions.

His advanced horses include Cool Mountain (won team gold and individual silver at WEG 2010, 1st Kentucky 4*) Kings Temptress ( 1st Kentucky 4*, 7th Burghley) Primitive Control (6th Badminton, 7th Burghley, competed for GB at the 2002 European championships), Primitive Streak (8th Bramham and Necarne), Jurassic Rising (3rd & 4th Bramham, 1st Blenheim, 5th Le Lion d'angers) and Limestone Rise.

Dam: With Love

His dam is With Love, Full Sister to Dual King George V cup winner Another Hoarwithy.
By the great Hoarwithy, a leading sire of event and show hunters, out of an Evening Trial Mare, another renowned event sire including HRH Princess Royal's talented horse Goodwill. With Love has some terrific eventing lines in her breeding.
She has bred show horses incl. Eros and Secret Love, eventers incl. Oprah and Opal evented with Tania Kyle, and Zack II adv eventer exported to Switzerland.

Primitive Proposal

Standing at Langaller Stud in Devon

Charles Upham,
Langaller Farm,
Bovey Tracey,
TQ13 9JP.

Tel: 01626 836556
Mobile : 07812 103448
[email protected]

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Stud fee of £500 + VAT for up to 3 doses to achieve one healthy pregnancy










Point to Point winner

 Lotta Scares 6yo gelding won the 2m5f maiden at Kingston Blount on March 8 2014


Primitive Prospect, 7yo gelding bred by Louella stud.

2012 3 top 10 placings at Intermediate, 19th in his 1st 2* at Houghton in May with a double clear.

Started his 2011 season well, coming 2nd in the 1* at Great Witchingham International with a double clear and 7th in the Intermediate Novice. He is now established at Intermediate with 3 top 12 placings at Intermediate.

As a 6yo ridden by Piggy French from 7 starts at Novice level in 2010, he won at Stratford hills and Carlton, he was 2nd at Upton House and Purston Manor and was 11th, 17th and 18th in his other 3 starts.  He  amassed an impressive  24 points in his first season.

Rising Star V

2006 gelding placed in the 5yo BE classes, placed at U18Novice as a 6yo and 6th in his 1st 1* as a 7yo.

Rubeus Hagrid II
Qualified for the 4 yr old British Eventing Young Horse Championships by winning at Burnham Market on his 2nd ever outing.
As a 5 yr old he won BE90 open at Isleham and  the BE100 at Eland Lodge.
3rd in BE100 at Great Tew and 3rd in BE100 at Shelford Manor. As a 6yo he was 10th in a Novice at Buckminster with a double clear.

Primitive Data

2014, 11th and DC in the open Intermediate at Belton and had a double clear in the 3* at Burnham Market.

2013, completed his 1st advanced coming 7th with a double clear and  completed at Blenheim 8/9yo 3*.

2012 won the Intermediate at Great Witchingham and 3rd at Richmond. He will be doing his 1st 2* at Houghton in May.

2011 3rd in the Novice at Bradwall, double clear, 7th in the Novice at Draycott, double clear. Completed two 1* Internationals and had a top 20 placing at Intermediate.

As a 6yo 3rd Novice at Moreton Morrell, 5th Novice at Oasby, 11th Novice at Milton Keynes from 4 starts at Novice. 7 BE points. Also been successful showjumping, he has won 2 Discovery's and a Newcomer and has £91 winnings .  

Pop The Question II, competed by young rider Katie Patrick, qualified for the Pony Club Tetrathlon championships 2012 and is competing in Under 18 novice eventing. In 2014 placed 5th in the Novice at Oasby, 3rd at Lincs with a DC and was 4th in the open Intermediate at Kelsall.

Time For Harry

In 2015 won CCI 1* at Hopetoun and the NRF at Stratford Hills.

As a 6yo Won Be100 at Eland Lodge and placed in 2 more BE100's. Won his Novice at Shelford Manor, 3rd at Milton Keynes and 5th at Keysoe.  Qualified for the BYEH finals as a 5yo, and the BE young horse champs as a 4 and 5yo.


Primitive Flight

Placed at Novice and 8th in his first 1* at Rockingham, now Intermediate.

 Rocky Romance

In 2013 Won BE90 at Oasby and placed at BE100

Overdun Proposition. 2nd Novice West Wilts.

Primitive Legend 7yo competing at BE100, he won the BE100 at Broadway and was placed 3rd in a BE100 at Tweseldown.

Dun With Class 6yo 2nd and 3rd at BE90 open and 2 top 10 places at BE100.

Wetherbrook Primary Colours, 7th in BE100 at West Wilts

Primitive Storm won and 2nd JAS at Vale view, 3rd in BE100 at Brooksby, completed Oasby Novice with double clear.

Primitive Popcorn, placed in BYEH qualifiers. 10th in a BE100 at Mattingly.

Asnoname, placed at BE90 & BE100 including 2nd in the BE100 at Calmsden and West Wilts(3)

BEF Futurity

Sire of Primitive Promise, Reserve champion at the BEF futurity final in 2012

4th in the BEF eventing sire Rankings in 2011

5th in the BEF eventing Sire Rankings 2008 with his progeny averaging a score of 8.57 out of 10

8th in the BEF eventing Sire Rankings 2009 with his progeny averaging a score of 8.59 out of 10

In 2010 Primitive Proposal was the sire of

Faer Proposal, a foal with a score of 8.79 which was the highest eventing score of the day from foals to 3yo's at his evaluaion at College EC.

Pencos Silver Emblem, 2yo who had the highest score of the day in his age group at his evaluation at Writtle college and qualified for the eventing champiopship finals at Osberton where he was 2nd.

In past futurities Proposal has sired

Future Goldigger
2008 filly. Overall highest scoring eventer with 92.5% ( foal—3yr olds)at the BEF evalutions from over 170 horses inspected. Elite 1st premium.

Future Glamour
2006 Champion Event Foal at the BEF Futurity Grading Championships, she was the highest graded event foal both at the National Qualifiers and at the Championship - under 2 different judging panels - and was 1st Premium graded with a very rare '9' for conformation.

Redpath Proposition
2009 Highest scoring eventing 3 yr old at his venue (Plumpton) with a score of 8.72.

Dappa Dan
2009 Highest scoring eventing yearling at his venue (Myerscough) with a score of 8.50

Champions Joy
2009 Highest scoring eventing yearling at her venue (Arena UK) with a score of 8.46



Punch Town, winning at Medium level, 93 BD points

Primitive Popcorn, winning at Elementary 30 BD points

Dun With Class, competing at Elementary 82 BD points

A Paris Proposal

5yo won the prelim at weston Lawns with 74% and placed at Novice.


Primitive Proposal's group winning the Produce class at The National Hunter Show 2009
In 2013 he is the sire of
Primitive Pluto, won the 3yo class at Osberton In Hand champs
Cornsay Pendragon, won the foal class at res champion overall at the Osberton In Hand champs
Angelic Proposition, won the foal Championship at Bramham potential event horse and was champion foal at Lincs County.
Look Twice, Champion Novice Riding Horse at BSPA 4a
Look Ahead
Comberton Copelia. Champion Riding horse at Devon County and Derbyshire festival of Showing.
Blues Proposal, Champion Hambleton show.Champion Amateur Hambleton show
Champion Amateur Three Counties, 2nd Amateur Royal Windsor
2nd Amateur Royal International, Reserve champion sport horse breeding show.

In 2012 he is the sire of
Southills The Sorcerer 1st and res champion In hand Hunter at The Royal Highland Show.
Comberton Calypso, 1st riding horse yearling ,Devon County, 1st and res. champ riding horse breeding, Bath and West.
Attractive Proposition 1st and res champion riding horse breeding, Midland Counties.
Blue's Proposal 4th Lightweight Hunter, Royal Windsor.
In 2011 he is the sire of
Look Twice, In hand champion at SHB North West Spring Show. Riding Horse Champion at Midlands Counties. won the 3yo Sport horse class at Hambleton.
Blue's Proposal Champion Amateur Hunter at The Grassroots Show at Addington in March  and Reserve Champion at Royal Windsor.
Primitive Popcorn, bred by Louella out of our mare Louella Vanessa Blue and owned by Nikki Hazelett. Popcorn won the Blue Chip Ridden Flat Sport Horse Class at the BSHA Northern Spring Show and he has qualified for the final at The National Hunter Show in September.
Attractive Proposition Res Champion at the BSHA Championships, Res champion Sport horse at Hambleton Show and 2nd in the Event breeding 2yo gelding/colts class at Bramham.
Punch Town won the 4yo ridden hunter class at Hambleton on his 1st time out.
Look Ahead 1st yearling colts at the Great Yorkshire
Comberton Cachet, In Hand Ridng Horse Champion at The Three Counties
In 2010 his show winners include
Southills Spook
Supreme Champion at Fife Show, Supreme Champion at Keith Country Show, Champion hunter In hand at Echt Show. In the 2yo Hunter class he was 1st Derby Festival, 1st Cheshire County, 1st Royal Highland Show, 1st Grantown Show, 2nd at Three Counties   
Harlow Hill
Champion Hunter at Northumberland County, 2nd 3yo hunter filly Great Yorkshire, 2nd 3yo Hunter filly, The Royal Highland,
Look Twice
Champion 2yo Potential sport horse SHB NW Spring Show, Champion riding horse at The North of England summer show, 1st Light Horse In Hand, The Scottish Horse Show, 2nd Hunter 2yo, Hambleton & District, 3rd Sport horse 2yo at
The National Hunter Show
Punch Town
1st, young horse champion and overall champion Rydale Show,1st and Ch. Lanchester Show 2nd The National Hunter Show and winner of the cup for the best young horse sired by a SHB graded stallion.
George Town
1st and champion Scottish Horse Show, 2nd The Great Yorkshire and 3rd Newark and Notts in 3yo Hunter gelding classes.
Comberton Cachet
1st & res, champion riding horse youngstock at Devon County, 2nd riding horse yearling at NPS summer championships, 3rd Riding horse yearling Festival of the Horse show.


In 2009 Primitive Proposal was the sire of


Squirrels Edge 3 yr old gelding.
Champion hunter and reserve Cuddy at The Scottish Horse Show.
Hunter youngstock Champion at Border Union.
Champion sport horse & Supreme in Hand at Hambleton Show.
3 yr old winner & res Ch at Northumberland County.
3 yr old winner at Bramham event horse breeding & youngstock.

George Town II
2yo winner and Sport horse Champion, The National Hunter Show
Best British Bred, The National Hunter show

Redpath Proposition.
3yo winner and Sport horse Champion at Kent County.
3yo winner and Hunter young stock Champion at Bucks County
2nd Sport horse youngstock, Bucks County

2 yr old winner & Hunter Champion at Northumberland County.
1st hunter 2yo, Glendale Show

Oak Hill
Hunter 3 yr old winner at Hambleton Show.

Arlington Park
Champion Broodmare at Border Union show

Dewsberry Park
Broodmare winner & Hunter Champion at Glendale show.
2nd Great Yorkshire Show, lightweight broodmare.

Primitive Popcorn
winner of 4 yr old sport horse class

Blue’s Proposal
Irish draught sport horse champion at The Great Yorkshire Show

Romantic Proposal
2nd Hunter 2 yr old filly. The Great Yorshire Show

Look Twice
2nd yearling Bramham event horse breeding & youngstock class.

Rocky Romance
2nd 2 yr old Bramham event horse breeding & youngstock class

Look North
2nd 4 yr old ridden Hunter, East of England Show.
4th ridden Hunter, The National Hunter Show

Harlow Hill
2nd hunter 2 yr old at Border Union.

Other successful show horses in previous years by Primitive Proposal are

Look North (GB)
Qualified for the Cuddy HOYS as a 2 and was 3rd overall and qualifies again as a 3 yr old.
He won numerous in hand championships incl.,
Supreme Hunter Perth, Supreme Ch. Hambleton,
Supreme Ch. Scottish Horse Show,
Supreme Ch. Bucks County 08,
Res Ch.Royal Highland.

Dewsberry Park Champion hunter at Northumberland County, 1st Skelton, 2nd Royal Highland, 2nd Great Yorkshire, 2nd Scottish Horse Show

Primitive Prospect
1st Ch. Derby County, 2nd South Suffolk Show,1st & Reserve Ch. Sport Horse Midland Counties

George Town II
1st Hunter Yearling SHB NW Potential Competition Horse
1st Potential Sport Horse Yearling SHB NW Potential Competition Horse
1st Potential Sport Horse Yearling, Huby & Sutton Show
1st Hunter Yearling, Huby & Sutton Show
1st Hunter Yearling, Ryedale Show

Harlow Hill
1st Hunter Yearling, Hambleton & District Show 08

Primitive Dark Perfection
Shown in In Hand Hack classes, she was unbeaten in 2006, her wins incl: The Royal Show, East of England, Midlands County

Arlington Park
Yearling Potential Sport Horse:1st Scottish Horse Show. Hunter 2yr Old: 1st Great Yorkshire, 1st Highland Show, 1st 141st Rydale, Ch In Hand Sport Horse & Supreme Champion. As a 3yr old Supreme Champion at The Royal Highland Show

Primitive Passion
1st Yearling Potential Sport Horse, Herts County
1st Royal Show Hunter 2 yr old filly.
1st Herts. County & Res Champion Sport Horse 08

Primitive Popcorn
1st & Champion SHB(GB)NW Potential Sport Horse as a 2yr old
As a 3 yr old won Potential Sport Horse Class at Yorkshire Sport Horse and Huby and Sutton Show.

2008 foal ex Swansdown Seabourne,
Champion Sport Horse foal, The National Hunter Show 2008.

Romantic Proposal
2nd Yearling Potential Sport Horse, Newark and Notts
2nd Hunter Yearling, Great Yorkshire Show.

1st Hunter Yearling, Leicestershire County Show
1st Yearling Potential Sport Horse, Hambleton & District.







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